Thursday, September 10, 2015

KYOTO SATSUMA (京 薩摩)

From collection of Jim Horne





AWATA YAKI (粟田焼)
          
                      

                                 This is an Awata Jar with missing lid c. 1930 


KINKOZAN
Made for export. This mark (red and gold) with the mountain mark reads Kinkozan Zo 錦光山造. This  is probably c. 1921-1930 ( certainly after September 1921, given the MIJ written above the mark).


Marked Kinkozan Zo. These kinds of cups (and saucers) came in sets of twelve, a different flower motif for each month. 

     This is signed in red Kinkozn Zo 錦光山造

KOSHIDA

         This is a very fun Koshida piece circa late 1950's.

Marked Seizan 清山

9 comments:

  1. I have recently acquired the full set of 12 of the Kinkozan, Kyoto pictured above with the beautiful wisteria. However, mine are not marked made in Japan and they do not have the abbreviation of the name of the month (in English?) on them. The markings look similar though and are equally difficult to read. Do you know more about this marking? Who produced the artful set? What is the age? And what do you estimate the value to be for a full set of 12 in a lined box built for the set?

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    1. I would need to see some pictures. Please send photos to Marmiet23@gmail.com.

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    2. As I have posted before, I sent you pictures via your Gmail address. But if I could also share something else I have found in my research...the following link has an image of a marking that is the same as my own except for a slight stylistic expression of line. I'd be interested in hearing what you think of this find... http://blogs.bhandl.co.uk/nic-saintey/CategoryView,category,General.aspx

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    3. Your Kinkozan set of twelve is probably a domestic set rather than one made for export, thus no English is used. The mark reads only Kinkozan in Japanese. I saw a similar set in a Kyoto store a few years ago. I can't remember what it sold for and I typically do not give values. I remember thinking it was expensive.

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    4. I just want to say thank you for taking the time to respond to my inquiry. I can appreciate the risk you take in making any conjecture about the value of the set. Thank you anyway for your informed opinion. I appreciate anything that can teach me more about the set.

      Based on my recent research on the internet, I was thinking that this set was made for export because it is shaped like many sets I've seen being identified for demitasse. Was demitasse such a thing in domestic Japan? What's more, the box that it came in has the placard of perhaps an exporter Bosin & Co. located in Kisaran, which when I googled this, I found to be located in Indonesia. I've had no luck collecting any information about Bosin & Co. and I believe that the company and any record of it is long forgotten, at least through the internet records. But the " & Co. makes me think that is was for western import. However, you may be right about it being for domestic use and the placard was simply affixed to the set at a later time after being acquired by Bosin & Co.

      Further research also has left me to wonder if maybe my set might have been an earlier version of this set you have, since it bears no English transcription. I have found models of Awata ware 'Satsuma' pictured on-line and the markings on pottery identified as being from a Kinkozan, Kyoto kiln under the leadership of Sobei VI or more likely Sobei VII of the Kinkozan, Kyoto Awata pottery house. I think that perhaps my set was late 19th or early 20th century.

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    5. It appears that your set is Taisho Era, but before 1921.

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  2. Correction...It reads Kinkozan Zo in Japanese meaning Kinkozan made.

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  3. I have a pair of little vases that I am interested in finding out who the maker is. They are my favorites and would love to know more about them. The mark is a cherry blossom with a K in the middle with the words handpainted Japan. Please help.

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  4. I no longer take queries. I recommend joining a Facebook group on Japanese ceramics or getting books on Made in Japan ceramics. Good luck in your search.

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